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Jason Edwards Internet Tough Guy	Posted - 2009.09.15 22:59:00 - [1] Wow am I ever seeing capital nerf with a capital N. Quote: The first Motherships were near-mythical beasts, used by ruthless pirate corporations and powerful PvP alliances, able to stand against and destroy entire fleets nearly single handedly. Hey we can all go watch loxyrider do this. Except those 4 motherships taking on about 50bs. Actually lost TONS of fighters in doing that. The moms eventually needing their fleet to protect them. Also... epic epic fighter nerf remember. So we cant exactly be elite anymore. NErfed to where we lose all our fighters before we kill anything. Unless there's 50 other carriers there also. Quote: There is nothing fancy about this. You will have to warp your titan on grid and actually target an enemy ship to ruin his day. You won't be killing other supercapitals in one shot, but very little else is going to survive. Ok yes. Titans need a nerf. But you just say... you wont kill other supercaps in one shot. Oh right. We already have Double and triple doomsdaying. So 3 titans drop on the field to blast ur titan. While 3 others come to blast your 3. Oh right. Nobody in their right mind will put their ships on the field... And what? Titans are the new anti-station camping? I'm camping in my thanny on station. I better dock or im losing my ship. Is this new deathray allowed in low sec? Dont undock your caps anymore because the titan is about to bbq u and you cant do much about it apparently. Titans lock carriers in like 10 seconds. Carriers align in like 30 seconds. Quote: Motherships are being reclassified as Supercarriers. The name of æMothership' has long caused confusion as to what the intended role So they can now dock? They can be built in stations? They arent going to be these giant targets sitting at pos waiting to be destroyed? Is motherships the new capitals that sort of can protect themselves from titans? How about pos? Can titans blow them away? If a titan can blast a carrier. That's AT LEAST 2.5mil dmg. Typical large pos isnt that much more. So bring 10 titans and you can RF towers in all the time it takes to get a lock? Quote: + The ability for Supercarriers to fit Triage modules. + The ability for Supercarriers to fit Clone Vat Bays. + The ability for Supercarriers to fit one additional Warfare Link per level. Ok they didnt exactly use these... but it's still a nerf of options. Quote: Dreads will remain unchanged with one small exception - the Moros will only receive its drone damage bonus if it is in siege mode. Yaaay moros nerf. Oh wait... it wasnt even the best dread... and that's not even taking nagl or pheonix into account. I know they got buffed. Never checked how much. So what? Moros pretty much got massively shafted here. Moros wasnt even op. The very limited use of station camping has led to a number of moros deaths. I dont see why this happened. Is the moros guns getting epically buffed now to make up for the nerf? I was 2 days away from training capital hybrids for moros. I can fly moros, I can siege moros, but i didnt have capital hybrids. Now I wont even bother. Moros insurance value is 1.1bil by the way. I'll try to buy myself a moros at 1bil when they are selling like hotcakes. ------------------------ To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe. ------------------------ Life sucks and then you get podded.
Jason Edwards Internet Tough Guy	Posted - 2009.09.15 23:52:00 - [2] Quote: The current RoF on the super weapons is five minutes. This is because we plan to let everyone do a lot of testing on SiSi over the next several weeks. We will continue to balance based upon the results of public testing and feedback. Firing the weapon has the current effects: * Immobility for 30 seconds. * Jump drive non-operational for five minutes. 5 mins ok. Quote: The difference is that instead of ruining the day of a couple hundred people (potentially worth X billions of Battleships and HACs) with the push of a single button, you are ruining the day of one person. Random double dd Damage done (ISK):7.91B - 7912.18M For the hell of it. Lets call it 10 billion. Random cap battle. Damage done (ISK):75.73B - 75730.14M This cap battle went on from 13:50 - 14:43 1 hour or so. So 1 titan theoretically could destroy 20 capships in that period. Lets just go with 10 caps. Average capship costs say 2billion. So he does 20 billion in damages. So the titan is doing twice the damage to people. Focused all in on fewer people. Those fewer people being personally hurt far worse then those losing cheapfit bs. ------------------------ To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe. ------------------------ Life sucks and then you get podded.
Jason Edwards Internet Tough Guy	Posted - 2009.09.16 00:19:00 - [3] Originally by: Hull Blaster Would be nice for the Supercarriers to be able to dock... but they're so effin' big how would they fit in the station environment??? Um. Titans docked dont clip the walls to much. Same with motherships. Docked Nyx Docked Erebus Also... Supercarrier. Nobody will move to the new name. We will continue to call it Mothership. So it will only become ever so more confusing. CNR - Caldari Navy Raven? Or right it was renamed Raven Name Issue. WTS RNI. Oh right... what the hell is a RNI. ------------------------ To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe. ------------------------ Life sucks and then you get podded.
Jason Edwards Internet Tough Guy	Posted - 2009.09.16 02:07:00 - [4] Originally by: Casiella Truza Nice concept art on the Titan weapon, think I'll take it. /me sets new background. It's like seeing photoshopped gore. My thanatos just booked the next month off for vacation; not sure it's coming back. It has been scarred for the rest of it's life. Why couldnt they have rendered a Hel or something... Nobody flies Hels. ------------------------ To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe. ------------------------ Life sucks and then you get podded.
Jason Edwards Internet Tough Guy	Posted - 2009.09.16 12:20:00 - [5] Quote: The new bays will alleviate this. In terms of size, they won't be 10,000 m3 nor will they be 500 m3. We will find a sensible balance and apply that. So those of us who do use 10km3 will be nerfed. For no reason other then server performance? WTB nephalem??? I bet eliminating ships all together will lead to better server performance also. So we should make it so we all just fly in our pods while we figure out how to eliminate pods also. Quote: As I said at the start, we have time and are paying attention. We'll be looking at this in the coming weeks and will work to make sure the Moros isn't relegated to the bottom of the class. Smile Lets say the absolute max distance the naglfail could do damage out to was 60km for the citadels. Which is essentially the equivalent here. The 2 projectiles are about the same dps as the rails on moros. If you dont want these moros pilots to start training revelation now... you have to drastically boost rails or not go through with the nerf. Quote: Originally by: Supercarrier Name HatersI hate this but have no other suggestions. [h2]we have no other suggestions. There needs to be no other suggestions. Motherships is the name. If some newb gets confused over the name... Link them this pic. After all I didnt jump out of my HAS(aka HAC) and into my RNI(aka CNR) then dock in my supercarrier(aka Mothership) renaming it only further confuses the situation. ------------------------ To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe. ------------------------ Life sucks and then you get podded.
Jason Edwards Internet Tough Guy	Posted - 2009.09.16 14:53:00 - [6] Edited by: Jason Edwards on 16/09/2009 14:55:36 Titans: I really hate the 1shot hit deal @ 5min cycles. Moros: No more station camping because you get your 1 min deaggro. Titans warp in 1 pop blewm. I would really prefer titans had these massive tanking abilities... like actively tank 20 dreads in siege without breaking tank. Alternatively the titan itself does like same dps as the blog suggests or so; except not in 5min hits but instead 1 min hits. In other words. Same pwn power as the current 1 hit per 5mins except. So the titan doesnt become this uber hitter. Unless you can hold that capital on grid for 5 mins. This supports the idea of having support at least somewhat. Also since there's a 30 second halt; which allows aligning; you then take about 30 seconds more to get up to speed. So it's about 1 min to get away. 1 min cycle would make it possible that right when you're getting away. You can fire again. There's no 1min wait, run, come back for next shot. You kinda are designed into needing several shots; staying there for fun. The other issue I find with the titan deal. It'd be so much dmg happening. Even the supercaps being hit just once. The sheer amount of damage would rip away shields. The ehp living in armor, and structure also. So lets say you're a nyx. You absorb the damage into your shields then hit into your armor tank. The armor tank most likely being able to suck up the rest of the damage. You rep up as you get away. Net change? You need to just be afk at a pos to recover your shields. Now lets say you're a wyvern. Your shields suck up the damage. It then bleeds into your untanked armor. You turn your cap booster on. You then have armor damage. Oii that sucks balls lol. So lets say they do 2mil dmg in those 5min hits. That's about 8000dps i thinks. Lets just take same dps and dmg but put it into 1min strikes. That gives you about 400,000 dmg hits. Practical to be used against subcaps; except there's a fair locking time for that. Carriers/dreads cant really sustain that amount of damage; but it isnt any sort of ... "I lagged for 10 seconds and came back to see my pod, wreck, and a titan... but I had a hg slave officer fit thanatos!" There's no insane hit and run problems. You need the titan there to sustain for a couple minutes at least. On top of all that. You can give supercaps epic built in aux nano bonuses to make titans be able to sit there. ------------------------ To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe. ------------------------ Life sucks and then you get podded.
Jason Edwards Internet Tough Guy	Posted - 2009.09.16 15:36:00 - [7] Quote: One more thing - the Hel is getting rid of its current repair bonuses and trading them in for bonuses that enhance the endurance of its Fighters and Fighter Bombers. I guess the Flight Deck Chiefs on Hels like duct taping spare bits of armor onto their strike craft or something... So the 3 pilots who actually fly a hel... would use it to rep poses. During sieges as you can rep the shields, skirt them, and if being shot. duck right into the shields again. Except we know minnie suck balls. So any possible use must be nerfed. ------------------------ To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe. ------------------------ Life sucks and then you get podded.
Jason Edwards Internet Tough Guy	Posted - 2009.09.16 16:13:00 - [8] Quote: Dreads : What i find currious is that there is so much goon whineage about the moros nerf Confused Are there so many goons using the Moros to stationcamp ? Are people(not just goons) complaining that the dps is so low without drones because they only field sniping dreads ? So you think a blaster moros is a plausible setup on tq? You are able to manage the 7.5km range while in a moros sieged? @ 25km with maxed skills the best dps you are putting out is about 3500dps with blasters. With rails. You get about the same dps from 25km and further. With the utility of being able to change for long range. Bubbled blaster moros vs capfleet @ 90km = moros who does nothing but wait to die. People complain about station camping moros... but what about station camping 1hit titans? The fix is not to undock your capital into the titan? Wait so the fix for station camping moros is... dont undock into the station camping moros? Nobody trained moros for it being as good as a revelation. It was purely the out of siege drones that made it a good dread. Nerf that... you are left with a ship nobody will fly. ------------------------ To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe. ------------------------ Life sucks and then you get podded.

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Wow am I ever seeing capital nerf with a capital N.